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#1 OFFLINE   Silver Hawk

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 04:44 PM

My Titus hummer arrived from Hong Hong today --- very quick and no charges. thumbsup.gif

Complete with Omega logo in centre of the crystal (you can just make that out in the second photo) and what looks to be a machined case back. Not sure about the crown; it looks like the top may have been taken off....but its not clear.

Case, dial, movement (ESA 9162) all look to be NOS...so this is a pretty cheap way to get an F300Hz. wink.gif

Cheers

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 04:57 PM

Nice one Paul, so when does the museum open? biggrin.gif

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 05:02 PM

That's a cracker!

As you say, it's a good way to get hold of an affordable f300. Which, as it happens, is a watch I've fancied for a while.

And you get two great names in one watch...

Hmmmm.

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 11:14 PM

yep its a good cheap way to get a good hummer, cheaply. Same factory parts as Omega so same quality... a bit poorly done in some areas (crown logos removed and backs a bit cheap) but its the same watch...

Defe an interesting side to Omegas history... smile.gif

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Posted 12 March 2008 - 06:38 AM

Hello Paul, are yuo sure it's the Omega logo on the cristal?
I think it's the same logo as on the dail and that's also not an omega logo but an laurel wreath logo.
Another tip look at the o ring it's coming out of the caseback ( last picture)
If you open the back for this take an picture off the movement and show it to us.
btw nice watch, happy buzzing.
Greetings Piet

Edited by piet, 12 March 2008 - 06:40 AM.


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Posted 12 March 2008 - 07:28 AM

Hi Piet,

Yes, it is definitely the Omega logo (see below). We've had quite a debate on this forum about the connection between these Titus ESA 9162 based hummers and the Omega F300Hz versions. You can read about it here.

Cheers

Paul

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Posted 12 March 2008 - 07:42 AM

Nice little hummer there.

Enjoy it. smile.gif



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Posted 12 March 2008 - 07:47 AM

I got the same watch in PX from Andy when i serviced his Tissonic.

Its definately an Omega case, i will check to see what the Omega case ref is!

Mine like yours has the Omega logo on the crystal and also the case is stamped between the lugs.

I would imagine that they machined the casebacks and crowns to remove the branding from there also.

You don't normally see the Omega mark on the SS cases, although some of those too are Omega ones. It is obviously easier to refinish the SS ones than to have to replate the GP cases to remove the mark!

These Omega?Titus watches were also sold under the Imado brand!
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Posted 12 March 2008 - 08:38 AM

A few more pictures of my Titus.

First one clearly shows the Omega logo on crystal. Second one is the inside case back --- these look to be the new Titus markings. And thirdly, the Omega logo next to the gold plating thickness (microns) between the lugs; there were no visible signs of markings or machining at the other end.









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Posted 12 March 2008 - 09:33 PM

nice watch Paul,

and a great addition to our growing investigation into the Omega/Titus connection. I have just managed to get my hands on another 120m diver Titus, I've yet to compare but I am pretty sure that the crown finish is different than my other, further reinforcing the 're-finished omega parts' theory as opposed to Titus buying up the old Omega moulds.

great stuff

Andy

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Posted 12 March 2008 - 10:45 PM

Andy... Ive also got another Titus in my hands and can do photos for you. This crown does look different to my old one...

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 06:55 AM

Hello Paul, interesting story yes it's an omega cristal.
in the previus debat you mentioned they said that the omega logo was filed out the crown.
that's somthing i don't belief. titus is capable to make there own crown and sel an new watch with an filed crown ?
i don't think an manufacturer woulth do that.
link to an nice titus with his own logo on the crown an back
http://bbwatches.info/solvilgeneveblacksteel.php
it's still an mystery the omega sign on the cristal and between the lugs ph34r.gif
greetings piet

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 09:54 AM

QUOTE (piet @ Mar 13 2008, 07:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello Paul, interesting story yes it's an omega cristal.
in the previus debat you mentioned they said that the omega logo was filed out the crown.
that's somthing i don't belief. titus is capable to make there own crown and sel an new watch with an filed crown ?
i don't think an manufacturer woulth do that.
link to an nice titus with his own logo on the crown an back
http://bbwatches.info/solvilgeneveblacksteel.php
it's still an mystery the omega sign on the cristal and between the lugs ph34r.gif
greetings piet


Hiya Piet,

I still maintain the crowns were filed. Let's face it if you were Titus and had an complete case/back/crystal and crown, what's the point of manufacturing new parts? It is so much cheaper to modify the existing ones. The intriguing thing is how rough a job was done. Perhaps their finances were in dire straights and it was all done quick and dirty to shift the stock?

Paul,
Any chance of a nice close-up of your crown?


Andy


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Posted 15 March 2008 - 07:28 PM

I have a NOS Titus rectangular case tuning fork that has the Omega logo on the dial. While it is a watch that has absolutely no other casemarks,you can see obvious file marks on the case side where the logo was filed off the stem while still installed. The case back on this one is quite substancial and held by four screws.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 07:30 PM

QUOTE (watchnutz @ Mar 15 2008, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a NOS Titus rectangular case tuning fork that has the Omega logo on the dial.

On the dial? Or do you mean crystal?





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