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Military Pocket Watches

#1 User is offline   Galea 

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 09:25 PM

Anyone here collects military pocket watches?

Here are some pics of my GSTP's:



Buren, Damas, Cyma, Doxa, Elgin, Grana.



Helvetia, Leonidas, Marvin, Moeris, Jaeger Le Coultre, Omega.



3 Walthams, Recta, 2 Unnamed

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Posted 28 May 2007 - 11:18 AM

Superb. I've been meaning to get some GSTP pocket watches for ages but never seem to get around to it. The only similar thing I've got so far is this modern CWC


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Posted 01 June 2007 - 09:40 PM

Good selection of a collection smile.gif
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Posted 01 June 2007 - 09:45 PM

that jlc just oozes quality, lovely
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 06:43 PM

Well, I finally got around to buying some of these. Some of you may recognise them from another online dealer's stock. I decided to bag the lot in one go... hey presto, instant GSTP collection! biggrin.gif

CYMA


Helvetia


Unbranded #1


Unbranded #2


Unbranded #3


I plan to get at least seven more as they came in a nice box with space for a dozen pocket watches smile.gif







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Posted 17 March 2008 - 07:24 AM

Cool! A really nice collection! But I am still missing Hamilton watches.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 02:31 PM

Three more WW2 era, military pocket watches landed today smile.gif

First up, a no-make 6E/50 RAF observer's/navigator's watch. Basically the same as the army issue G.S.T.P's above except for being non-luminous:




Next, an American-made Elgin, 7-jewel, Grade 291, circa 1941, exported to England and issued to the British army as a GS MkII general service timepiece. This one appears to have an original (or very old, at least) lanyard and its original crystal which displays some scary Radium burns from the luminous dial:




And lastly, a Zenith HS3. These were first issued to the Royal Navy Hydrographic Service around 1942 and, after the end of the Second World War, were returned to the admiralty at Herstmonceaux Castle where the original dials were replaced with ones like the example below. On this dial, basic time-telling functions were relegated to the small centre scale, with seconds/minutes being read from the middle scale, emphasised in red. The outer scale shows 10th's/100ths. of a minute. The casebacks had the orignal HS3 markings struck out and replaced by NATO stock numbers. The issue number corresponds to the last four digits of the movement serial number. I think you have to handle one of these watches to really appreciate what a serious peice of kit it is!


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Posted 04 April 2008 - 11:57 PM

Excellent to see such quality pocket watches.....superb!!
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 03:49 PM

Glad to see I'm not alone in appreciating them. And for those that are interested in what makes 'em tick...

Part 1 - G.S.T.P's:

CYMA


Helvetia (General Watch Co.)


Unbranded #1


Unbranded #2


Unbranded #3

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 03:55 PM

Part 2 - 6E/50, GS MkII and HS3:

6E/50 RAF Observer's/Navigator's watch


Elgin GS MkII (i)


Elgin GS MkII (ii)


Zenith HS3

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 11:51 AM

-2.14 seconds per day, tested over 6 days in 6 positions smile.gif
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:56 AM

QUOTE (rhaythorne @ May 28 2007, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Superb. I've been meaning to get some GSTP pocket watches for ages but never seem to get around to it. The only similar thing I've got so far is this modern CWC



I see your cwc is no longer avaialble, what movt. does it use? (V. nice btw)

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 03:01 PM

Here are some of mine I am getting more into to collecting military watches these day's



Helvetia GS/TP

Hamilton 2794B comparing watch


Elgin GCT Navigation watch





Hamiton model 23



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Posted 24 May 2009 - 05:57 PM

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Interesting regulator arrangement. Never seen that before. Has it a name?

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 10:32 AM

@lebaron - the CWC pocket watches crop up on eBay occasionally, especially the older ones without the oval around the logo. I've never been able to get the back off to confirm which movement is used (I tried again just now with no success, it's on too tight to budge) but I'd be very surprised if it was anything other than a Unitas 6497 or 6498.

@river rat - very nice, especially the Hamilton chrono and the Elgin GCT. I might have to see about getting one of those. Is GCT "Greenwich Civil Time" or "General something Timer" perhaps? huh.gif

@ValvesRule - I've wondered that myself. A type of swan neck regulator with micrometer adjustment perhaps? Not being a watchmaker, I don't know for sure.
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