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    I have many interests, but being disabled, I follow them from home or from not more than three or four miles away. I have many interests ranging from watches (of course) to many other forms of antique and art.

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  1. I'm sure that the market researchers who work for watch companies are well-aware of the various branding tricks that bring the most likely success, and clearly, the nature of a watch brand as it is made for the dial, and the position of that brand on the dial, are important factors in the overall design of any watch. I must confess that I rarely "complain" about how watch companies use their branding on their watches, although different styles of watch generally benefit from a specific branding philosophy. I am a bit of a literary man when it comes to brand images, and I generally prefer all watches made by a single company to bear a simple name mark on the dial which links all that firms products and reputation together. Obviously, other marks may also appear on the dial, including country of origin, type of drive and number of jewels, or the model name. Branding should be relatively subtle on watches, in my view, and I don't really need to have the company name impressed into the side of the case or on other parts of the watch or bracelet. Some useful information is permissible on the caseback however, and perhaps a monogram on the crown or logo. I suppose that it comes down to simple rules that can be sometimes tampered with, in the interests of artistic credibility. So generally, I would say of dial branding, keep it simple, keep it readable, and don't let brand logos, etc., cause a problem with legibility of the watch hands and numbers and any registers.
  2. Accurist is currently a brand that I am exploring in both watch buying and research terms. I am planning to write a comprehensive history of the company at some stage, and I have already written a few forum topics on various aspects of this interesting company. There are a number of intriguing offshoots and watches from Accurist that need to be included in an Accurist history. Obviously, I won't go deeply into Accurist history here, but using mere memory, I can say a few things about the firm. In terms of recent Accurist watches, it should be noted that Accurist is now embedded within the Time Products group and although this means, in effect, that the firm is now a subsidiary of Time Products, this is no bad thing and the Group is firmly in British hands. Time Products is historically the work of the Margulies family, which has a good reputation in watch circles, starting Sekonda and then incorporating Limit watches before lately acquiring Accurist. Accurist is not a particularly old company - being immediately Post-War in origin - and although its original proprietors, design inspiration and HQ were British, Accurist has always sought components and main manufacture abroad. From my own collection, it is evident that the main source of Accurist watches was Switzerland, and this included the mechanical models as well as early quartz Accurists. in more recent times, Accurist has turned to Japan and China for the manufacture of its watches, while design has been in-house over here in the UK. Accurist has produced some very fine quartz watches, especially those related to its relationship with the Greenwich Observatory. Stylistically, Accurist has explored a number of avenues with its quartz models, including the Accu2 range. One or two little "teasers" of info I shall keep in my head for when I write my main history of the firm. I would say that the general quality of Accurist watches has been pretty good in recent years, and I would expect that to continue under Time In terms of Accurist mechanical watches, these vary somewhat from quite basic types to more complicated and interesting models. Accurist hand-wind and automatic watches can be described as being "respectable," and the vintage examples are often great wearable timepieces, redolent of Britain in the 1960s. I would recommend any watch collector to collect Accurist watches. The brand is a name that I certainly don't mind wearing on my wrist, and my most expensive quartz watch purchase was an Accurist Greenwich grand complication with perpetual calendar and chronograph, made with a hand-made Citizen movement in Japan. Thanks for showing that chrono just now, Roger the Dodge. I myself have an example of that model and it is rather nice albeit with a base metal bezel and case. It was produced at a period when Accurist were not using so much stainless steel in their models. Since the birth of that chrono model, Accurist has fully developed its chronograph range, to good effect, including some visually exciting analogue/digital chronos. When it comes to the more traditional wristwatches, including smart dress-style watches, Accurist has always been a pretty good bet. Recently, they have had some focus on these sort of watches and there are some lovely retro-feel models simple and elegant. Before I sign off, I must just congratulate dear Wrench for showing us a watch from the first period of Accurist production. I would date this watch to about the middle 1950s, and I urge you to look at the hands - they have been allowed to stretch out to the fullest and most desirable length while still retaining their single geometry, and the neat short pointed rear ends to the hands are the ideal complement.
  3. Yes Rog, they did surprise me given the negative publicity such brands evince from watch cognoscenti.
  4. (pic from images.bidorbuy.co.za) Some time ago, I purchased a boxed and unused all steel Amadeus watch in a collector's market, not knowing anything about the brand but liking the general quality of the piece and its rectangular shape. I looked up the brand, briefly, and discovering that Amadeus are one of those "taboo" brands with watch afficianados, I didn't think much more of it. However, I have now come across another Amadeus for sale, a pre-owned all steel chronograph with three-registers, white dial, blued hands, rectangular case and stainless steel bracelet. This watch is substantial in build and feels surprisingly nice in terms of quality. The water resistance is 50 metres, which for a general rectangular quartz watch isn't bad - the steel caseback is attached to the case by four small screws at the corners. The only irritating thing about the watch, apart from the price, is that it does not include a date feature. The steel quartz chronograph by Amadeus identical to the example described here above (pic from thumbs.worthpoint.com): I have done a bit more research into Amadeus but I have not learned much that is new to me. According to one source, Amadeus watches were made by Zeon (Tech) and, along with a number of other no-no brands, they were initially sold through television auctions. The initial prices quoted for the watches were ludicrously high, and it was down to the public to bid or leave, as the price steadily fell. I am not an expert at how these television auctions were or are organised, but watch brands that are associated with over-the-top RRPs and subsequent TV auctions have never had a good press. Interestingly, some of these watches turn up new for sale in various venues and retail sites, and one particular website is still offering timepieces by a number of these off-piste watch brands, including Amadeus. Strangely, the site doesn't seem to have learned that the ridiculous initial or RR prices were or are just that - ridiculous, and I do wonder how many sales are made through that site. I have decided not to name the site here, not because their wares are all rubbish or overpriced, but because it is not my practice to advertise on the forum, especially when I myself have not used the site and have no other evidence about it. I am not exactly sure of the dates for Amadeus watches, but I believe that they are no longer in production. In my opinion, Amadeus watches are pretty decent timepieces, once the hype has been removed and one can see through the nonsense. Indeed, there are bargains to be had, with pre-owned and NOS examples doing the rounds for not much money. The pre-owned chronograph I am looking at has a price to me of just under £40, which is too much for me and doesn't fit in with my reduced buying schedule. Nevertheless, it is a well-made watch with a lovely dial and hefty stainless steel bracelet, and if it fails to sell then I might pick it up for less. In conclusion, I would suggest that in the case of brands that have a dubious character, always examine any potential purchase before shelling out money or deciding not to buy. Sometimes, you may find the pieces by these brands are just not good quality, but sometimes the watches are surprisingly good and even rather handsome - just pay what you honestly think the watch is worth and not a penny more. In the case of Amadeus watches, I would ignore those that are not cased in stainless steel - sometimes gold plated - and I would expect to pay between £20 and £30 for a simple timepiece with date, from pre-owned in excellent condition to boxed and never used. Gents chronographs (and calendar watches) are a bit pricier, and my limit would be £45 for a really good example, hopefully boxed and mint. Amadeus rectangular steel quartz wristwatch (pic from everydayshop.co.uk):
  5. What's not to like about that watch or your sterling work to restore it to full glory again. I have never myself managed to replace a crystal or removed and replaced a quartz movement. People who can work on such a small scale and be dextrous with their hands get my full admiration.
  6. I have made many impulse purchases, but tend now to more cautious these days. As for being drunk, I don't think I have ever experienced the dubious pleasure of that experience. I am not being moral here, just honest, and in the light of honesty, I can say that some of my cheaper impulse buys have ended up in charity shops to be resold to some other "lucky" soul. The circle goes on until finally the watch meets its ultimate fate, if not its "maker."
  7. Good way of keeping fit there Roger, wrap autos on both wrists and ankles and start swinging. Sure beats one of those smart watches that may monitor your activity but doesn't actually get you moving. And I do agree with you - 4.30!! I admire morning people and especially those who have to rise early in order to get to work, but in my dotage, I find myself fully awake and ready to go at about 8 am, and am up and about shortly thereafter.
  8. So far, so good, Rog, as far as watches lost or stolen. However, to my personal shame, I have inadvertently damaged watches in the past by trying to be DIY-clever. I am wiser these days, and tend to know when to stop, and when to never begin, as far as tinkering with watches is concerned.
  9. Lovely reply my dear AVO.
  10. I would write a full reply to this query but I don't think it is necessary because the story of the WWW military watches is quite well known and has been covered fully online. Essentially, the British military, at the beginning of World War Two, decided that with the British watch industry seemingly not up to the job, Swiss watchmakers would be given a brief to produce a military watch fit for purpose. 12 Swiss companies managed to fulfil the relevant criteria and started manufacture of the watches, which are so named because they bear the large letters on the caseback, "WWW." Interestingly, the WWW watches do not represent the best of Swiss watchmaking, and were obviously made to fulfil a limited set of conditions. Nevertheless, they are collectible, and complete sets of these watches - i.e. one from each of the 12 contributing watch companies - are now very valuable. The question of which manufacturer produced the best example of these twelve versions has been debated, and certainly Longines and IWC are up there among the main contenders. However, Eterna was no poor second best, and their watches of the period were of good quality. The so-called "Dirty Dozen" - different versions from 12 different companies of the WWW military watch (picture from cloudfront.net/monochrome watches.com):
  11. It is no nice to see a bold non-chronograph straightforward timepiece and that Hublot is very nice. However, having read about lack of proper alignment of the screws in the bezel, I must admit that I am a bit less happy. This may be OCD because I don't know how much I would notice them, although the nature of these screws with an essentially linear rather than polygonal slot for the driver makes the misalignment more noticeable. Hublot is a reputable name in the watch world even if its products can be something of an acquired taste. I suppose that if I was spending a considerable sum on a new watch, I would also tend to look towards more classic company names, but Breitling? I am not sure.
  12. Gone and done it! And I bought modern, but how could I refuse when the prices were so low and I could examine the individual watches before purchase. I bought an interesting Pulsar black and rose gold quartz chronograph, which appears to have a partly mechanical chrono movement, and I also bought a beautiful blue-dial steel Accurist chronograph as Accurist is one of my hit brands that I have written quite a bit about and plan to write more in the future. I paid £72.50 for the two, brand new and with two-year guarantee. I showed the Pulsar model on another thread, but here is the chronograph, picture from Accurist:
  13. Watches may be the best therapy after all then, dear Karrusel.
  14. Just a quick addendum to my earlier post, now that I have read the other posts on this thread. I would certainly not want the watch to be scrapped, if only for the lovely engine-tuned and enamelled half-hunter outer case and the unusual wire lugs that clearly indicate that this was an early prototype wristwatch. I do believe that the watch may have been first and foremost designed for the wrist because there were other ways of adapting pocket watches to the wrist which did not require the addition of lugs that might have been construed as ugly. I feel pretty certain that the watch was imported into this country, probably from Switzerland, either as a piece or in the form of the movement plus the case separately, and the input from Beaver of Manchester would have been either assembly and retail or merely retail, perhaps with a strap being sold separately.. Dating this watch is a problem but I feel sure that it pre-dates 1910 and I would place it within the early phase of general wristwatch development at the turn of the 19th century.
  15. Nice to see a Rotary watch of modern manufacture that one can be really proud of. I do like that use of a hunter-type case back and the watch certainly has an aura of old-fashioned quality about it. I congratulate you on buying it, and reckon it might have been a bit of a "wrench" for Wrench to pass that one on.