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    I have many interests, but being disabled, I follow them from home or from not more than three or four miles away. I have many interests ranging from watches (of course) to many other forms of antique and art.

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  1. FEEDBACK, Crown Verto Bronze Watch

    In the right conditions, a bronze watch will not go green but should acquire a rather beautiful brown patination. I would not expect a bronze watch to turn green unless excessive and long-term exposure to moisture in the atmosphere (especially the open air near the sea) were to occur, and there are bronze alloys these days with superior resistance to such corrosion products. The green corrosion products are, in fact, basic salts of copper. Bronze has been used for some really beautiful watches but a successful design using this material is not easy to pull off, and I hope you have studied those watches which are successful in this department. I agree with Scott about the copyright dangers inherent in using the name, "Crown" for the watches. In the case of the British royal family, you should be OK and certainly using the word "Crown" is more sensible than using the word, "Royal," which clearly could falsely imply royal connections or a Royal Warrant. If there are any extant companies making/producing watches or similar products branded, "Crown," (and there are) then you will have to look towards seeking permissions to use the name yourself, and it would be easier just to choose a more original brand name.
  2. Hamilton & Inches Edinburgh

    Thank you for that marvellous picture-thread-head, dear animalone. It has made for a great thread...
  3. Rotary Parts

    Right, well a good start would be to contact Rotary Service, Materials and Display at the following address: Rotary Watches Limited, 277 Prince Avenue, Westcliffe-on-sea, Essex, SS0 0JS: E-mail, service@rotarywatches.com: Telephone no. 01702 337 061 The main head office for the company is at 2 Foubert's Place, Regent Street in London, and their e-mail address is time@rotarywatches.com, and the phone number is 020 7434 5548. I hope that this information is useful. Good luck.
  4. APOLOGY: I have now had a look on the main online site for Argos and it appears that the watch now going for £119.99 is in fact slightly different to the one I showed in that it sports a different strap/bracelet. The original price of the example on sale at £119.99 was originally priced at £299.99 and has a leather strap - so it is still an absolute bargain. The picture I first illustrated above was for the same model but with the steel strap, and that one is still priced at £349.99 at Argos. I have now revised my original post accordingly.
  5. Aluminum time?

    You're right there dear Mel about aluminium. On the face of it, aluminium must have seemed like a Godsend to watchmakers, and indeed, during the first phase of aluminium production items such as jewellery were highly prized and expensive. Ultimately, of course, the price of aluminium plummeted when cheap forms of obtaining the metal were discovered, and aluminium as a material revealed its flaws. As you mentioned, the metal is generally rather soft, which is a pity because in its untreated pure form, it is protected from much environmental corrosion due to the thin layer of oxide that forms over its surface. In practise, aluminium is not the easiest of metals, either alone or in alloys. Being highly reactive, it is prone to crevice corrosion and pitting, and one has to be very careful in designing say, an aluminium-cased watch, about what materials are actually in contact with or covering the metal. Today's advanced science of alloys has produced some very useful alloys that contain aluminium; nevertheless, forming alloys based on aluminium is still sometimes beset by the adage of robbing Peter to pay Paul in that required strength, toughness and workability can be achieved only at the expense of increased corrosion and decreased durability.
  6. The Rotary Swiss made "Les Originales" watches have been mentioned quite often on the Forum, and if you are looking for a nice example at a great price then I suggest you get down to your local Argos (or go online) pretty sharpish. The new Argos price is £119.99 - a very hefty discount on what is a rather nice watch: (Pic from media.4rgos.it)
  7. Anyone know anything about this?

    Now this really is one you could probably easily look up on the internet. I can tell you that there is tons of information out there on the Moser watch concern and its history, and although I am tempted to give a potted history of the firm here on this thread, I have got to go and cook some supper in a minute. Braille watches are not always easy to date accurately because function tends to dominate over style, and I have a feeling that the basic style of your Braille watch was made by Moser for a considerable length of time. Thus, having looked at a number of related watches online, I feel that my first stab at a date in the mid-1930s is too early and I now reckon that your watch dates to the thoughts of a date in the mid-1930s would suggest that your watch probably dates to about the immediate post-war period, in the 1940s. I illustrate a similar watch to your own here below - this example belongs to the postee's wife's grandfather and was posted online last year (pic from thirtyfivemill.com): I have now looked thoroughly online for other examples of your Braille watch and in fact, I was surprised at how many extant examples there are. Those that resemble your watch most exactly seem to be powered by hand-wind 17-jewel movements by A. Schild, although one watch, with a release button below the 6 o'clock position and with black hands, features a 17-Jewel hand-wind ETA caliber. There is often a reluctance to date these types of watch, for the reason I mentioned above, but one example online, very similar to your own, was dated to the 1940s.
  8. Pilots don't use watches.

    Nothing wrong with a chronograph pilot's watch, as long as the chronograph function doesn't detract from the fundamental timekeeping-at-a-glance of the watch.
  9. Before there was lume

    I must admit that having examined the whole question of lume and safety in great detail due to my own concerns about it, I have come to the conclusion that I personally would avoid buying old watches that have been liberally lumed with radium-based lume. For me personally, it may be true that just wearing a radium watch so lumed is probably adding only a negligible amount of radiation in the scheme of things, but the thought of having a personal source of penetrating gamma radiation on my wrist day after day is just one step too far. Radium is a source of all three major forms of naturally emitted ionising radiation - alpha, beta, and gamma. The radium in lume has a very long half-life, and the amount of radiation being emitted in even a very old radium-lumed watch will be almost the same as when the watch was made, although the degradation of the phosphor caused by being burned out by the radiation may mean that there is no glow left. When it comes to tritium-based lumed watches, I would wear one but not every day or for extended periods. These watches are far safer than those lit by radium lume, partly because the beta radiation - the main emission from tritium - emitted can barely pass through either the watch back or even the crystal, and partly because the short half-life of tritium (just over 12 years) means that an older tritium-lumed watch will have lost a significant amount of its radiation, unless it has been re-lumed at some stage. There is a misconception about tritium-lume concerning the nature of its use - tritium is an isotope of the gas element, hydrogen, and tritium tube technology takes advantage of that fact to enclose tritium in tiny glass tubes that have a phosphor applied to the inner surfaces. This form of lume is effective until the half-life of the gas starts to reduce the luminosity. It is sometimes stated that tritium lume always requires to be used in gas form, but in fact, many watches have a tritium/phosphor mix actually painted or applied to the watch dial in the manner of radium lume. My most important piece of advice concerning any watch that contains a lume activated by a radioactive substance or a lume of unknown composition is that (unless properly equipped to carry out such work), the collector should avoid opening the watch, most especially when that reveals the dial to the elements, and never tamper with the lume itself. It may seem over-zealous, but removing old lume and cleaning old dials when the watch has been lumed using a radioactive phosphor is, in my opinion, a professional business.
  10. Pilots don't use watches.

    You said it, Rog, and from my enquiries I came to the same conclusion. The only necessities for a pilot watch were that it should be accurate and have a clear and highly readable dial and hands. In my book, the nicest old pilot/flyer watches keep it simple. These days, as watches have acquired an increasing array of functions and gizmos, we tend to mistakenly believe that all this is necessary for the task of piloting a plane when a simple but effective timepiece is the main requirement on a pilot's wrist.
  11. Bulova Accu-Swiss Tellaro chronograph

    In response to your query about the use of terminology stamped on a product designating it as Swiss made is, on the face of it, relatively straightforward, but in practice can be rather confusing. Generally, watch companies adhere to a what has become a convention in that the designation of a Swiss watch, as defined by the legal parameters, will be marked "Swiss Made" on the dial - generally using all upper case letters and frequently having the 6 o'clock hour marker between the two words. However, other forms of the mark are permissible, such as "Switzerland," "Swiss Quality," and "Swiss." Oddly though, although these various marks should denote a legal Swiss origin, their actual use is only covered formally in rather broad terms under general Trademark law. A watch company wishing to promote the Swissness of its watches would therefore do well to adhere to the fully recognised manner in which watches are marked, though some companies who are well known as being Swiss have placed other forms of Swiss made marks, such as Swatch, which has used just the word, "Swiss." I am not going to try and deal with the tedious and difficult subject of Swiss trademark law and designations of exactly what is required for a product to be identified as being "Swiss made" but I will just add that the watch collector is faced with many watches that utilise the word, "Swiss" as an integral element of the brand name when the watches have nothing to do with Switzerland. In addition, one comes across wordings on dials such as "Swiss Parts" or "Swiss movement" that also may have different shades of meaning. My feeling would be that if a watch has the words "SWISS MADE" on the dial in an inconspicuous manner, generally at 6 o'clock, then the likelihood is that either this watch will have passed the Swiss legal definition of what it means for a watch to be Swiss in origin at the time when the watch was made or it will be a fake.
  12. Sending me a message.....

    Wow, that's a bit much, Rog. I can understand a seconds hand going missing during a professional repair - well, just about - but a crystal?? That's madness!
  13. Tell me if you've heard this one

    I have just finished looking at the Memphis Belle website and I must admit that I found it a bit of fun compared to many watch websites. OK, the watches are on the expensive side, and yes, there are some models that obviously take their cue from other famous watch names. However, I do not get the impression that Memphis Belle is attempting to imitate these companies, and I do appreciate the comprehensive list of specifications provided for each watch, although I am only going to give the full specs for one of the watches illustrated below - it is just too exhausting, and you can look the company up online if you are interested. The mechanical models I looked at from Memphis Belle use ETA calibers, and the firm also uses Miyota quartz movements. I do have an "exuberant" side to my love of design, and that includes bold use of colour and overall aesthetics, which the Genoa-based Memphis Belle company has in spades. I admit that I even have a fondness for those decorated chunky Russian military-themed watches with their colourful dials, and it seems that Memphis Belle has produced an Italian version of this form of aesthetic. Memphis Belle T1200 Decima Mas Me Ne Frego automatic dive watch with black PVD coated 44mm titanium case and anti-reflective sapphire crystal. Unidirectional rotating bezel, screw-down crown with double o-ring device, antimagnetic soft iron cradle, semi-automatic helium escape valve, water resistance of 1200 metres, and powered by a modified ETA 2824.2 automatic movement having a Nivacourbe anti-shock system. Use is made of lume/fluorescence but not sure of exact details. Comes with a a yellow rubber strap, logo-pin, and strap tool (a mesh titanium bracelet is also available), 3-year guarantee, and a price of 1,050 euros on Italian Amazon (pics from orologico-militari.it, and bottom, gioiellishop.it): Fantastic design called the Coroflot, designed for Memphis Belle in 2008 by Guido Maurizio - this project doesn't appear to have reached commercial production however (pics from s3images.coroflot.com):
  14. Stainless steel scratches

    I have certainly enlivened somewhat scratched stainless steel items, including watch cases and bracelets, and the advice already given on this thread is excellent. Stainless steel is a peculiar material, and one has to be careful that the exact nature of the original finish is retained where you are polishing - it is all to easy to produce high gloss on a watch case or bracelet that originally was only polished to a certain degree of brightness. Deep scratches are best left well alone, and the abrasive used doesn't need to be as fierce as you might suppose. I tend to use Peek or a similar German-made polish - both of which are bought in tubes, like toothpaste - and I am careful not to accidentally polish areas adjacent to that which needs attention.
  15. Can Anyone Tell me About Desta

    I do agree with you there, Mel, on some occasions. However, (although I am an inveterate internet researcher on watches myself) I must stand up for a certain amount of "laziness" on the part of those people who ask for advice here that, admittedly, could be found online. Firstly, as a watch forum, we do place ourselves in a position of being first call for those interested enough to ask watch questions, and I do think that members can be forgiven for posting these queries. Secondly, fascinating threads can occur on the forum subsequent to relatively simple questions being asked in a thread-head, and this greatly adds to the liveliness of the Forum. Thirdly, when one is used to looking up relatively specialist subjects online it may seem odd or lazy that everyone doesn't just do the same. However, not everyone is as quick or thorough as those of us who use the internet all the time for garnering information on watches. It has been said on this Forum from time to time that everything can now be found online, so why bother to have articles written here such as my own modest efforts. The point is that getting a few relevant facts from the internet is obviously a quick way to answer a relatively simple question; what this belies is the amount of work it actually takes to tackle a complex subject or a complete history of, say, a watch company. Such work includes tackling the serious problem of sources that conflict with each other in the information they provide, as well as the use of resources that lie outside the internet. And believe me, the internet is not the only source material one may be required to use in compiling a fully researched topic.

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